I thought Hello Kitty was my rival (laughs) | MEDICOM TOY
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December 28, 2017

I thought Hello Kitty was my rival (laughs) | MEDICOM TOY


MEDICOM TOY


An Interview with Photographer and Film Director Mika Ninagawa (Part 1)


Mika Ninagawa's first collaboration with MEDICOM TOY was in 2011. Since then, in addition to a total of four BE@RBRICK figures, she launched fabric items featuring photoprints on their texture in December 2017. What is MEDICOM TOY as seen through the eyes of Ninagawa? We delve into her true feelings, as she kindly granted us an interview amidst her incredibly busy schedule.

Text by SHINNNO Kunihiko




First Collaboration: BE@RBRICK Released December 2011


Your exhibition "Mika Ninagawa Exhibition" is currently being held in Shanghai, China (November 11, 2017 – January 10, 2018). We heard the opening ceremony was a great success.

NinagawaIt was quite demanding as it's the largest solo exhibition I've ever had, but I'm glad I could realize things I wanted to do, like this and that.

I tend to want to make things as flashy and packed as possible if there's space, and in Japan, it's not often that I have the opportunity to spend that much money to do so. While there are things that can't be done in China, there are also many things that can only be done in China, so I think it was an interesting start.

What was the atmosphere like at the venue?

NinagawaIn Japan, there are usually more women, but here it was about half men and half women, and mostly young people.

All the staff in China are young, and even those with decision-making power are young. It's like, where are all the older people? I think young people like my creations.

When I held a talk event at the exhibition, there was a boy in the audience who was enthusiastically showing off three of my BE@RBRICK figures. What's more, one of them was the white-bodied model I first created six years ago. I was so happy, wondering how he managed to get it, as it was quite difficult to obtain even in Japan.



That was the limited edition model commemorating "BE@RBRICK WORLD WIDE TOUR 2" held in December 2011, wasn't it?

NinagawaI think he was originally a BE@RBRICK fan and also liked my photos, but I've never met anyone who owned three of them before (laughs). Also, a kid with that white model in China is quite rare. So, I basically don't sign autographs, but I couldn't help but sign that kid's BE@RBRICK.

The collaboration between you and MEDICOM TOY began with that BE@RBRICK, but were you aware of MEDICOM TOY before that?

NinagawaOf course I knew them, and my father (the late Yukio Ninagawa) had a lot of BE@RBRICKs. My father liked small things. He had many figures of paintings like Magritte and Bosch, and he also had some BE@RBRICKs displayed. He often performed at the Theatre Cocoon, so he apparently stopped by the store (MEDICOM TOY's directly managed store "1/6計画") between performances. Because it was close.

Have you ever collected figures before?

NinagawaWhen I was a university student,SpawnI loved and collected them.




I used to buy them every time characters of girls and handsome guys appeared, take them out, and play with them. But don't people usually keep them unopened? I opened them all and played with them a lot, so the boys who collected them would come to my house often saying, 'We heard yours are opened, can we see them? Wow, it's like this!'

Back then, collectors would display them on their walls in their transparent blister packs.

NinagawaThat state was also stylish and cute, so I used to cut only the back to make it like an open-and-close situation (laughs). I collect various things, but I don't collect them perfectly like men do. For example, even if there are 12 types in total, I'm fine with just the 9 cute ones. That's where I differ from men. Even if they say, 'This part's color is different, it's super rare, so it costs tens of thousands of yen,' I'm perfectly fine with the ordinary one (laughs).

Page02.How to Display What You Shoot, and How Photos Decorate Three-Dimensional Objects




MEDICOM TOY


An Interview with Photographer and Film Director Mika Ninagawa (Part 2)



How to Display What You Shoot, and How Photos Decorate Three-Dimensional Objects


Please tell us about the process of designing your first BE@RBRICK.

NinagawaAt that time, it wasn't technically possible to print photos all over, so I struggled a lot. Since it was a photographer's office, we didn't have staff who could handle three-dimensional objects. We could only use Photoshop and Illustrator a little. As a last resort, I remember painstakingly trying to make it by color-copying photos, cutting them with scissors, and attaching them with double-sided tape.

So it was born from an analog method?

NinagawaBut it's cute, isn't it? Later, based on this concept, I created patterns for dresses and swimwear, and there are plans to use it for airplane wrapping as well. Looking back, this was the first merchandise where I deconstructed a photograph and recreated it into my own image. In that sense, it's one of my most memorable works.

So, when I saw that boy standing there in China with it, I was a little moved (laughs).

After that, the water transfer printing technique was used, allowing photos to be printed on the entire surface of BE@RBRICK, leading to the creation of "Anemone," "SAKURA," and "Rose."

NinagawaIt's constantly evolving. I think there probably hasn't been a precedent for photos being used on such a wide variety of items. That's why technology is innovating in many areas.

At printing companies, there were many instances where they developed new inks just to achieve my colors. I used to always get a stamp saying 'Ink Limit,' but some places even made a new stamp for me saying 'Saturation Limit.' Thanks to everyone, I can now do so many things (laughs).

Furthermore, since 2016, your direction brand "M / mika ninagawa" and MEDICOM TOY have collaborated to sell fabric items like bags, cushion covers, and camera straps printed with your photographs.

E_g_MLE-M---mika-ninagawa-シリーズ『ROSE』-SIMPLE-TOTE-BAG_1

H_MLE-M---mika-ninagawa-シリーズ『ROSE』-CAMERA-STRAP_1



NinagawaThey are all very cute. The bags are cute, and the card cases are cute too.

We have many visitors, so I wanted slippers and asked them to please make them. Same for the camera straps. Next, curtains would be nice too. I need to change my bedroom curtains soon (laughs).

Did you envision such a wide range of development when you first aspired to be a photographer?

NinagawaIn my 20s, I thought, 'My rival is Hello Kitty' (laughs). I wanted to fill the world with the same volume as Hello Kitty.




G_MLE-M---mika-ninagawa-シリーズ『ROSE』-CARD-CASE_1

F_MLE-M---mika-ninagawa-シリーズ-『ROSE』-TOTE-BAG_1



I wanted those who want to buy it as an art piece to buy an original print, and for those who can't afford it but want it around them, I wanted even a 100-yen ballpoint pen to be available.

For me, there's no 'photographer shouldn't do this.' It's great for art pieces to enter everyday life, and I'd be even happier if people discovered photography through them. I believe one should have the creative strength to allow for proliferation to a certain extent. And then, I think one shouldn't create things that would fail.





Released December 2017
M / mika ninagawa Collaboration
Third Release: ROSE FABRICK
Top left: SIMPLE TOTE BAG ¥4,800. Top right: CAMERA STRAP ¥6,000. Bottom left: CARD CASE ¥2,000. Bottom right: TOTE BAG ¥13,000. (All prices exclude tax)






I try to keep that in mind.

Is this also influenced by your father, who worked across a wide spectrum from underground to popular art?




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NinagawaI think I inherited the idea that things appreciated by only a few people aren't necessarily noble, and that commercial success isn't a bad thing. Perhaps it's even more exaggerated now.

I know that in the art world, it's better not to do commercial work and to focus only on art pieces to be seen as more profound, but there's no point in making myself seem superior by doing that.

It's more interesting to have things spread out all over the world, and I feel it suits me better to strive daily to have the strength to make that possible.

So, I end up doing all sorts of things.

Your major in graphic design at university must also have been significant.



NinagawaAt that time, not many people thought about how to display their photos. Everyone was more focused on taking photos earnestly, so I think it was a significant strength when submitting to public exhibitions. Conversely, if I only had that without substance, it wouldn't be enough as a photographer.

What does MEDICOM TOY represent to you?



NinagawaAll of our staff love working with MEDICOM TOY. Because they have passion, they always deliver excellent results. While quality check standards differ for everyone, we have overwhelming trust, so it usually ends with 'Wow, it's so cute!' (laughs). It's easy in a good way, and there's nothing but enjoyment.

When the samples arrive, everyone gets excited and shouts, 'They're here, yay!' The packaging is cute too.

By the way, are there any items you like besides your own collaborations?

NinagawaI absolutely love the Tsuchinoko from "Doraemon." Doesn't it look a bit like my youngest child? (laughs) I loved the fact that they would make a Tsuchinoko, and its meticulously crafted form. No matter how many times I look at it, I feel it has soul and love. The fact that it has a string to take it for a walk is also wonderful.

It seems your relationship will continue for a long time to come.

NinagawaI have many more patterns, so I want to continue this indefinitely. It's fun to see the number of BE@RBRICK patterns grow.