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38th Daido Moriyama Solo Exhibition: Hokkaido (Part 2)
Rathole Gallery
The 38th Daido Moriyama Exhibition: 'Hokkaido' (Part 2)
Continuing from last time, we bring you the conversation with Daido Moriyama held at the opening of the 'Hokkaido' exhibition. Moriyama's words, spoken now, reveal that this solo exhibition and photo book were destined to be released at this particular moment. (Nobuhiko Kitamura)
Nobuhiko Kitamura / HYSTERIC GLAMOURPhoto by Jamandfixedit by TAKEUCHI Toranosuke(City Writes)
Photographs I Could Finally Face After 30 Years
KitamuraThe 'Hokkaido' series wasn't realized over a decade ago, but thinking about it, you've photographed extensively both in Japan and abroad over the past ten years, haven't you?
MoriyamaThat's right. I photographed Shinjuku, Osaka, Buenos Aires, and Hawaii. But it's precisely because of those ten years of energetic movement that I felt Hokkaido was right for me now. I thought I could look back at it with fresh eyes and create something that reflects my current perspective. It's not that I planned it this way, but when I revisited the contact sheets, I realized how weak my selections for 'Asahi Camera' were back then. At the time, I could only see the image I had convinced myself of, and I truly missed a lot. After 30 years, my perspective has become more level and flexible.

KitamuraIn that sense, wasn't this timing perfect?
MoriyamaThe timing was truly perfect. The Hawaii exhibition had just finished, and I was about to start photographing Tokyo again.
KitamuraI saw the Hawaii exhibition, of course, and I felt a slight pang of jealousy. But I'm truly glad that this 'Hokkaido' exhibition could happen here and that I could be involved in the book.



The Volume Exceeding 600 Pages Eased My Mind
Were you involved in selecting the photographs for this exhibition?
KitamuraNo, I left it entirely to Mr. Moriyama. So, this is the first time I'm actually seeing them. I spent about an hour with the book before coming here today, taking a journey through Hokkaido. I had seen a rough draft before it became a book, but I only glanced at it. I thought it would be more impactful to see the finished product without any prior information.
And what did you think when you saw it?

KitamuraFor example, the 'Shinjuku' or 'Osaka' we've seen before are places where the city itself is a funky subject. But hearing about Hokkaido 30 years ago, I wondered if it might evoke a sense of Japanese original landscape, or the unique loneliness of the Japanese countryside. However, after seeing the finished book, I thought, 'This is truly Moriyama.' It was explosive. Of course, it reflects Moriyama's state of mind at the time, but what struck me was how, after 30 years, all the negative feelings were eliminated, resulting in a fresh collection of photographs.
MoriyamaIndeed. If it had been released back then, it would have been different. While the perception of the same photos can change, the fact that it became an unbelievable volume of over 600 pages left little room for emotional attachments. In other words, this time, I was in a situation where I could include everything I shot over three months, 30 years ago. So, it was easier to create the book. Of course, my feelings towards the book were stronger than ever, but paradoxically, it was also very easy. My mental agility was high. If I had made it back then, I probably wouldn't have been able to include everything, thinking 'this one too, that one too.' I might have gotten caught up in my emotions and become more moody.
KitamuraGiven the location, it's easy for things to become sentimental, isn't it?

MoriyamaNorthern landscapes tend to become moody. Moreover, the period I spent in Hokkaido was a time when I was toning down my emotions. During those three months, as a daily rule, I decided to go out and take photos every morning, just like a salaryman, and I shot regardless of whether I felt inspired or not. So, I wasn't particularly exhilarated while shooting, nor was I in the state of mind I had anticipated before going; I felt like I was shooting rather mechanically. Conversely, looking back now, I feel that perhaps that approach was for the best.

Daido Moriyama Exhibition 'Hokkaido'
On view until Sunday, February 8, 2009
Rathole Gallery
12:00-20:00 (Closed Mondays)
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