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May 11, 2015
Spiritual Dialogue Vol. 8 | Reika Ito x Makoto Tanijiri: "The Alchemist Who Creates the Unique from Multidimensional Ideals" (Part 1)
Spiritual Dialogue Vol. 8 | Makoto Tanijiri
Reika Ito's Portrait of a Guest
The Alchemist Who Creates the Unique from Multidimensional Ideals (Part 1)
We invite creators active in various fields as guests, and spiritual healer Reika Ito uses a combination of readings that interpret the energy emitted by individuals and various astrological techniques to assess the source of their creative power. She delves into past lives directly connected to this world and hidden potential, exploring the charm of the creators themselves, which often remains hidden behind their work.
Text by OPENERSPhotos by JAMANDFIX
Our guest for the eighth installment is architect Makoto Tanijiri. His series in OPENERS CASA has gotten off to a strong start, and he is currently managing numerous projects both domestically and internationally from bases in Hiroshima and Tokyo. In this first part, we explore the background of Tanijiri's thinking, who embodies people's happiness and enjoyment through 'architecture,' from doghouses and private residences to large buildings.
Designing as if for the First Time
ItoAt what age did you become independent?
TanijiriI was 26. I became independent without thinking much about it (laughs). At the time, I was planning to get into bicycle racing. I used to do downhill mountain biking, so I decided to be independent for about a year to do what I liked, and I was just drifting. But you have to make a living, right?
ItoThat's true (laughs). What was the first thing you worked on after becoming independent?
TanijiriMy first job was designing the interior of an apparel shop, introduced by an acquaintance. However, I had never worked on apparel interiors before, so I looked into it and researched various things after being asked, and then brought it to shape. That's how I've always been. I believe how you approach something is more important than whether you've done it before. Even Tadao Ando must have had a time when he hadn't built a museum.
ItoEveryone has a first time, don't they?
TanijiriI think so. There's a book I really cherish, 'Thinking for the First Time' by Shigeki Yano. It's my bible. It's a philosophy book, but it has illustrations and is easy to read in about two hours. I always recommend it when I give lectures, and I give it to many people.
Ito'Thinking for the First Time'?
TanijiriI really love the title. When I create anything, I want to cherish the idea of 'setting aside my own preconceived notions and designing as if for the first time.' For example, if I were to design a cafe, I would remove the definition of 'cafe' and think about what kind of place would be good for drinking coffee, or what kind of space would foster lively conversation. I utilize past experience as a skill, but in terms of creation, I want to discard my experience as much as possible and approach it.
ItoIndeed, when you have experience, you tend to develop too many patterns within yourself.
TanijiriExactly. That's why I want to approach things while cherishing the 'first time' within myself. When experience accumulates and you can do various things with your knowledge and intuition, 'things you can do' increase more than 'things you want to do,' and you tend to judge whether something is possible or not based on your experience. However, to expand the scope of what you can do, I believe you should think about how to achieve what you want to do.
ItoThat's right.
TanijiriFor example, imagine wanting to draw a picture in space by moving your hand 'swish' in a certain way to create a contrail. It's easy to say 'that's impossible,' but if you research the principle behind contrails and how to draw in space, and then realize it, it becomes 'newness.' I believe there are many things that are not yet in existence but will become commonplace. I want to approach things by thinking freely and then refining how to realize them. Therefore, I really like things I haven't done before. The pressure is high because I can't afford to fail, but it's exciting.
Spiritual Dialogue Vol. 8 | Makoto Tanijiri
Reika Ito's Portrait of a Guest
The Alchemist Who Creates the Unique from Multidimensional Ideals (Part 1)
Always Thinking About Architecture
ItoWhat inspired you to become an architect?
TanijiriI never intended to become one. I was just drifting along, but gradually I realized that there were people who truly needed my ideas, and I started to find thinking about things incredibly interesting, which somehow led me to where I am today. Being useful to others is very rewarding and enjoyable. That's really all there is to it.
ItoYou haven't changed much since you were a child, have you? (laughs)
TanijiriYes, I still feel like a child (laughs). When I was a child, I used to go fishing every day. There was a river right near my house, so every day after club activities, I'd go to the river with my fishing rod and just zone out. My grandmother would call me for dinner, and I'd leave my rod and go home, and after eating, I'd return to the river in the dark. That was my daily routine.
ItoThat sounds so peaceful and wonderful. Did you fish alone?
TanijiriI used to fish alone back then. Nowadays, I even feel uncomfortable entering a cafe alone (laughs). I get restless. So, I prefer being with someone.
Communication is a source of many ideas. When I'm in Tokyo, I often meet people from different fields, and talking with them, I learn how they think and how they work.
This can also connect to my own architecture. For example, when I heard about someone in printing or graphics who collects trimmed paper to make notebooks, it made me think that architecture also produces a lot of waste materials, so could I apply the concept of designing the very way architecture exists to something else? My thoughts start racing.
ItoWhether it's the time you spent fishing alone or now, you seem to enjoy thinking.
TanijiriYes, I'm always thinking. There's a passage in that book I mentioned about the phrase 'I am always thinking of you,' which I found very beautiful. It suggests that even though we are actually thinking about eating when we eat, and about sleeping when we sleep, the statement 'I am always thinking of you' can be made if there is a consciousness directed towards that person somewhere within us.
ItoI see.
TanijiriIn that sense, I am always thinking about architecture. I wonder if this material could be used in architecture, or if this is architecture, or if this table, which we currently call a 'table,' would still be a table if it were twice as big. Would it be called architecture if it were five times as big? When does something become architecture?
ItoCertainly... That's really true.
TanijiriThe value of things can change with just a small shift. Our perception of objects is ultimately just our own preconceptions. That's why it's better to have multiple perspectives. I've developed a habit of looking at everything that way. So, even when I'm drinking, I'm working.
ItoHaha. That's important.
TanijiriAlso, when I meet energetic people, I feel motivated to work.
ItoYou gain energy from them.
Spiritual Dialogue Vol. 8 | Makoto Tanijiri
Reika Ito's Portrait of a Guest
The Alchemist Who Creates the Unique from Multidimensional Ideals (Part 1)
By Designing Your Way of Thinking, You Create Something Unique
ItoWhat kind of projects are you working on these days?
TanijiriActually, I have about 40 projects going on (laughs). They range from large buildings like international commercial facilities and office buildings, to installations, exhibitions, and private residences of about 60 square meters. I also design furniture... and so on.
ItoWow. That's incredibly diverse.
TanijiriI believe in designing the way of thinking.
ItoSo, the form it takes doesn't matter.
TanijiriExactly. It just so happens that I mainly work in architecture. But even if I were to create a mobile phone, there would be its structure, and if I could design the thinking process behind creating that mobile phone, I'm sure I could propose a mobile phone that only I could create.
ItoYou must enjoy thinking and concept work. It's amazing that you can bring them to fruition.
TanijiriSometimes the purity is lost when it's materialized, and there are many things I can't do (laughs). But instead of worrying about what I can't do, I think about why I can't do it. If I think 'I can't do it because I have this mindset of not being able to,' I then consider how to become someone who wants to tackle it, like going out to play or meeting people.
ItoI see.
TanijiriI'm always asking 'why, why.' If someone says they want a spacious living room, instead of just saying 'Okay, let's make a spacious living room,' I ask, 'Why do you want a spacious living room?' or 'What does a spacious living room mean to you?' or 'What do you think spaciousness is?' I ask various questions.
ItoYou sound like a counselor. I also do that in my work to draw things out. I ask a lot of questions (laughs). When people talk, they also reach their own conclusions.
TanijiriThat's right. In return, I organize their thoughts, or rather, I do a lot of thinking. So, when someone says, 'That way of thinking is great,' I get excited (laughs).
ItoThat's when they truly understand the core idea.
TanijiriYes. For example, when you say 'build a house in the city,' the common idea is 'new construction.' But if you consider it within the context of the 'city,' couldn't it also be seen as 'renovating the city'? I won a competition in China with that kind of thinking. If you extend the greenery on the ground and cover the building's surface with it, it becomes like increasing the ground area. This leads to more greenery and contributes to environmental improvement. I think in that way.
ItoYour ideas are amazing.
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Part 2 here
Makoto Tanijiri
Architect / Representative of Suppose Design Office
Born in Hiroshima Prefecture in 1974. Established the architectural design firm Suppose Design Office in 2000. His work spans a wide range, including residences, commercial spaces, exhibition designs, landscapes, products, and art installations. Based in Hiroshima and Tokyo, he currently has numerous projects underway both domestically and internationally. He is also a specially appointed lecturer at Anabuki Design College.
Reika Ito
Representative of Divine / Spiritual Healer
After working in product planning, advertising, and corporate planning at an accessory company, she began her career as a lightworker, channeling with the divine realm and reading the subconscious. Depending on the consultation, she also offers healing, hypnotherapy, and destiny readings combining multiple astrological methods. She holds private sessions and full moon & new moon workshops in Jiyugaoka. Her books include 'Synchronicity,' 'Fate Alteration Techniques,' and 'Lucky Business Feng Shui Manual.' www.divine-msg.com





